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hello and welcome to episode number 74

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of the point of conversions podcast as

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always I am your host EXO academian

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for those of us intimately familiar with

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the nuances of the so-called UFO

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phenomenon the question of if there is a

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there or not is long settled

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those of us who've looked closely at the

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data gathered over the last 100 years or

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so not to mention more ancient accounts

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that bear a striking resemblance to the

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descriptions of more modern encounters

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have concluded that humanity is indeed

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being interacted with by intelligences

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that seem to arise from elsewhere

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now whether the nature of that elsewhere

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is another solar system or another

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dimension of reality is a matter of some

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debate

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here I will argue as I have for some

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time now that these categories are

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generated from a perspective on reality

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that is limited and incomplete better

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replaced by options that both include

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and transcend these outdated Notions but

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nevertheless the evidence points not

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only to them having been here for pretty

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much as long as we've been around but

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also to the very distinct likelihood

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that they played a major role in our

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seating and later development as a

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species on this planet

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Beyond these often agreed-upon Notions

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comes the question regarding how many

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different groups of these others there

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are some will argue based on a variety

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of factors that what we may be observing

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is the actions of a single group or

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intelligence merely presenting in

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different ways over time

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John Keel a very influential figure in

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this field largely argued for this

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perspective one of the key data points

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for this view is that high strangeness

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psychic influence and elements of

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space-time Distortion are present in the

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vast majority of these cases to some

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that startling overlap suggests a common

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source

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is this the only way to square this

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evidence though I would argue it is not

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I believe a better fit for the data is

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that the ways by which these various

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groups of others are traversing domains

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to get here is what accounts for these

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common elements in experiencer accounts

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truth be told I think it is our bias

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towards reducing complexity whenever and

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wherever we can that leads many to draw

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upon these somewhat superficial

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commonalities in order to LEAP to the

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conclusion that humanity is being

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manipulated by some singular overarching

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metaphors

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another reason why I think this being

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one group parading as many is not the

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best fit for the data is that the way

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these various others interact with human

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beings is quite different

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to speak in very broad terms some of

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these groups seem to tread lightly

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asking us not to fear them and bringing

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messages of reconciliation and Universal

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siblinghood

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on the other end of the spectrum are

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groups that seem to view human beings

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more like how we view animals as

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Commodities to use towards their own

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ends regardless of how much discomfort

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we may experience in the process

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to be sure there are many interactions

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with groups that also fall somewhere in

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between these two extremes

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this variable treatment of human beings

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is a key data point demonstrating that

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these are different groups often using

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similar means of travel which I will

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argue is almost always interdimensional

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in nature though that term will need

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some unpacking

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does that mean so-called abductions are

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always conducted by groups of alien

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others who are malevolent perhaps even

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the very source of evil described in

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ancient religious texts well no I don't

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think it's quite that black and white

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Nuance will be required throughout this

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discussion because as with so much of

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reality the details are complex that

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said I do believe one can begin to parse

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out the actions of different groups not

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only working towards different aims but

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motivated by very different underlying

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levels of consciousness development from

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within the totality of the data

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and that very goal the identification of

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specific patterns of contact and

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communication from within the

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overarching complexity of the data

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associated with the UFO phenomenon is

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what will be the focus of this the 74th

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episode of the point of convergence

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I'd like to begin this week's episode by

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saying that the cosmology I'm talking

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about here that will determine much of

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what I'm saying is complex ever-evolving

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and ever more nuanced and is created via

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a combination of the latest research

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coming out of foundations of physics

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neuroscience and evolutionary biology

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along with experience for literature

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research comparative religious history

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esoteric cosmological history and my own

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encounters with non-human intelligence

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a background in integral Theory helps me

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to take both a multi-disciplinary

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approach from within the Sciences to

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this topic while also incorporating

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different kinds of knowledge as well

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everything from Revelations arising from

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the Scientific Revolution to insights

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gained in ancient esoteric Traditions as

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Ken Wilbur famously said everybody's

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right at least to some degree that is in

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other words if you have a tradition in

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human history that believed a certain

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thing about the world it's very likely

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true to some degree even if it is only

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partial ending complete

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as I say it is complex and it's taking

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me time to unravel it all and it's still

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very much a work in progress

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I won't be expounding on all of it in

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this episode but I will outline some of

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the broad Strokes the rest will come in

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future episodes or so we hope

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now undoubtedly lights and anomalous

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objects in the sky tend to get all the

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attention these days but the real

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significance here lies in the contact

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made with the beings the beings Behind

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these different phenomena and objects or

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vehicles

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of course this tends to get ignored by

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the mainstream media even though this is

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the bigger story and even though this

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has at times anyway garnered national

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attention for instance when Oprah

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covered abductions back in the 1990s

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of course the kinds of encounters people

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have with these various non-human and

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non-conventionally human intelligences

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vary quite considerably

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even though there is a variety of

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experience described everything from

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powerfully spiritually transformative

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experiences with beings who exude the

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very definition of love and light to

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entities whose behavior is more like the

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stereotypical depiction of biblical

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demons whose aim it seems on the surface

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of it anyway is to basically terrorize

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the individual unfortunate enough to be

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having the encounter and of course there

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are also plenty of encounters that fall

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somewhere in between these two extremes

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and here it should be noted that raw

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experience and interpretation while

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related of course are not the same thing

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that is to say two people could have

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virtually the same experience and Come

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of it and often this extends to the

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ascribing of motive and intent to these

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various others that are encountered

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as I've stated many times these

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encounters are very often ontologically

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shocking even if they later turn out to

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be regarded as a net positive serving as

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a catalyst for an expansion of

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perspective and a deepening of spiritual

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even though there is as I just stated

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quite a range of experience noted with

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this phenomenon it is not uncommon for

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people to LEAP to the conclusion that

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all of these experiences are being

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generated by the same underlying

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intelligence one that merely plays with

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our emotions and our intellects by

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parading in different guises like a

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group of actors merely switching out

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masks and costumes to present the

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appearance of Novel encounters almost

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like a Shakespearean company

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as I've stated previously while I agree

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that certain superficial similarities do

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exist in these encounters suggesting

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perhaps some connection between

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different manifestations of these

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non-human others I think it's largely

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biased that leads to this conclusion

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that it may just be all one Enterprise

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that bias I believe is the product

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largely of a lack of imagination

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the truth is that we have been so

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confident about the sufficiency of our

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model of the world as a western

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civilization that we have been biased

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towards slotting these anomalous

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encounters into just one additional

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segment the proverbial cherry on top as

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it were to Mark our mapping of reality

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this Viewpoint you might suggest

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glossing over

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well I will say this the historical

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literature of experience or testimony

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does recount a similarity in residual

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effects byproducts or what you might

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call side effects of these various

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encounters regardless of whether they

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are interpreted as positive negative or

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neutral by the individuals having the

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does this mean it's all one Enterprise

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of these various groups are interacting

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with us the nature of the communication

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and even the nature of how they Traverse

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from one domain to another suggests some

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underlying overlap in terms of methods

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but that's often where the overlap stops

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and noting a similarity in terms of a

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space-time Distortion and telepathic

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communication of course doesn't imply

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the same entity or group of entities is

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responsible it just suggests that

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perhaps for any being coming here from

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these other domains these are the means

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by which they make their way into our

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midst and conduct their communication

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I think it's a mistake to rely on these

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commonalities alone to LEAP to the

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conclusion that these are all part and

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parcel of one underlying intelligence

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and that's partly because even if you

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allow for some discrepancy in terms of a

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shifting perspective on an encounter

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over time given the Advent of additional

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nuance and Clarity one cannot dismiss

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the Stark differences in the nature of

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some of these encounters again to paint

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in Broad Strokes here on one end of the

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spectrum we have beings whose appearance

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and behavior provokes comparisons to

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angels of various religious Traditions

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While others present the very opposite

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impression bringing to mind beings whose

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aim is to sow Discord terrorize and

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ultimately rob a human being of all

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feeling of agency sovereignty and

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there's plenty that falls in between

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these two extremes as well I also want

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to bring to your attention that when we

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talk about comparing these different

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accounts including accounts from ancient

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history with more recent accounts you

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need to look past the vocabulary we use

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because obviously ancient people didn't

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have the same terms we have and didn't

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consider extraterrestrial even a

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possibility so keep that in mind when

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you get past those superficial

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differences and those superficial

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differences in vocabulary based on

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what's available at the time for an

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experiencer to relay the encounter to

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someone else there is a lot of overlap

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now I think the more fitting

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interpretation of this diverse data is

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that what we're witnessing slash

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experiencing are encounters with

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different groups of entities and that's

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been the case for our entire history

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basically

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I think the more fitting interpretation

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of this diverse data is to what we're

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witnessing slash experiencing or

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encounters with different groups of

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entities though perhaps sometimes the

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means in which they reach us has some

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parallels which as I've already stated

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helps to explain some of the common

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elements we see evidenced over time

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now here it should be noted that I would

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argue that the ones we've been

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interacting with are very often coming

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from a higher level on the spiral of

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dimensional development reality is

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altogether different on a higher level

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and regardless of a particular group's

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attitude towards us they are more

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capable as reality at that level is such

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that among other differences in

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characteristics form bends to thought in

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other words it's a mind over matter for

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them

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it should also be noted here importantly

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that higher levels here doesn't

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necessarily imply a higher moral code

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amongst all of these various groups of

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others we're just talking about the

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nature of the reality construct that is

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higher and that's a very important

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distinction to keep in mind they are

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more capable they have capacities we do

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not have because of the level of reality

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they're coming from but that doesn't

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necessarily make them our moral

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superiors

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now if I were to choose a word to

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describe the common denominator between

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these different encounters it would be

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this interdimensional

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I think that whether these beings or

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groups of beings are benevolent or

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malevolent or to State it in a more

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nuanced and perhaps realistic way mature

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or immature they are coming here setting

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quotes from outside the construct of

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this dimension of reality

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I would say physical reality but as I've

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stated on previous podcasts I think this

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is a misnomer I think we're having an

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experience within a field of mentation a

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Dreamscape if you will and this common

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Dreamscape we all inhabit has internal

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consistency to it including the

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rendering of a mostly consistent

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experience of materiality

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though again importantly when that seems

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to not apply is when these others from

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outside this Dreamscape or field of

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mentation are interacting with us and I

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would argue that this is because reality

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again said in quotes is made up of

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overlapping fields of mentation or

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interpenetrating Dimensions if you

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prefer that language and it is that

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interpretation of Dimensions that

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produces as a side effect some of the

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residual elements that we often

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colloquially term High strangeness

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now does my saying that extra

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dimensionality being from Beyond this

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construct in other words is something

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many of these groups have in common mean

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that the Extraterrestrial hypothesis is

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to be abandoned

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no on the contrary I think what these

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beings are and where quote unquote

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they're coming from is best described in

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ways that collapse our current models of

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possibilities in other words I think our

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reality consists of layers of

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Dreamscapes that to 3D beings like us

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anyway tend to look like overlapping

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physical space-time constructs and in

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that sense many of these beings are both

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extraterrestrial and interdimensional

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although some transcend even that

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multi-dimensional tapestry of these

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overlapping Dreamscapes but we'll save

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that discussion for another time

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so with the mode of contact slash

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transport slash communication now

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covered let's again turn to the diverse

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nature of experiences with non-human and

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non-conventionally human others reported

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over time

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and by the way for those who are unclear

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I also include non-conventionally human

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in that description because very often

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people have encountered beings that look

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humanoid and sometimes even fully human

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although they clearly are not from here

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which again as I've said before suggests

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a common seating program that's taken

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place across different planets and

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different star systems over time

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now speaking again in Broad Strokes the

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groups that make their way into our

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particular construct our Dreamscape tend

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to be covered under one of the following

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types again this is speaking just in

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Broad Strokes

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number one there are some groups of

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others who respect the need to

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communicate in such a way as not to

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shock and overwhelm the human contact

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number two there are other groups whose

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aim is precisely to shock and intimidate

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in other words the means in which they

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interact with us that is shocking and

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intimidating is designed to be that way

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third there are groups who see the

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ontological shock and discomfort we

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experience as a means to an end in the

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process of achieving their own agenda in

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other words they see it as Justified

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and fourth there are others still for

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whom shock is an unexpected and

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undesired byproduct of their contact

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with us and obviously there's some

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degree of overlap between some of these

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but that gives you four broad categories

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now let's break this down a little bit

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more

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Group 1 which again is these are some

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groups of others who respect the need to

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communicate in such a way as not to

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shock and overwhelm us

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now generally this group also tends to

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conceal their identity from us sometimes

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altogether because they want to

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encourage that sense of us owning our

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own progress and our own decisions

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they are also not dependent on exterior

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identity and so often don't manifest

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with either form or naming in other

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words they don't take a form at all they

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might just be a thought that enters our

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mind or they can take on different forms

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as the need requires and they often

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don't even use names they recognize each

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other based on energetic signatures if

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they take on names it is for our sake

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now they respect Free Will and will

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guard it both by being very cautious

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about their interference in our own

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reality and by rarely intervening even

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when we make less than optimal choices

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both as individuals and as an entire

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civilization

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now the second group again to remind you

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that's the groups whose aim is precisely

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to shock and intimidate

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now people here often bring up the

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Stockholm syndrome which was based on

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this thing that happened historically

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where some people who had been taken

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hostage began to identify with the needs

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and the belief system of those who had

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taken them and later on this was

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recognized as a psychological response

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to losing your sense of agency that you

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would align yourself with your captors

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in such a way as to feel like you had

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more sovereignty after all in other

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words you're fooling yourself so some

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people will argue this is the case with

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abductees who tend to say nice things

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about the groups that abduct them now

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again I think this is complex I think

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there are some so-called abductions that

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are not meant to be traumatizing and

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they're not meant to be negative other

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times I think there are cases where they

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very much mean to be negative they very

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much mean to traumatize us that's the

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entire point of the exercise the

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over-the-top symbolism is meant to make

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the human feel like an animal

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many people have talked about how rape

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is really about domination and not about

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sexuality I think this is very much true

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in these kinds of encounters too which

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not surprisingly also sometimes have a

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sexual element again that's not to paint

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in a completely broad brush and say that

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all sexual encounters with non-human

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others are negative I'm saying that in

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these cases sometimes the invasive ways

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they interact with us physically and

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even sexually suggests a desire to

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dominate us to make us feel a loss of

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agency sovereignty and even nobility

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these particular elements that are often

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again symbolic in nature but meant to

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make us feel badly about ourselves make

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us feel that we are mere Commodities to

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these others seems to be front and

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center with these groups especially

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considering that they could obtain what

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they need with much less invasive means

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in other words when it comes to them

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needing to take genetic material from us

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they could just gather a hair in the

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middle of the night or they could raid a

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sperm bank there's different ways they

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could gather genetic material without

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being so invasive really when you think

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about the invasive nature of the way

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they interact with us you have to

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consider that the symbolic nature is key

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I also think some of these abduction

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accounts involve mind control and the

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planting of programming perhaps for some

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future time which may never happen but I

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do think programming is part of what

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goes on as well somewhat like what was

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depicted in the book and film The

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Manchurian Candidate

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now let's move on to group three

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again there are different groups these

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are the ones who see ontological shock

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and discomfort we experience as being a

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means to an end in other words they see

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it as Justified

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the ones who use fairly crude means to

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go about their business including

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unnecessarily invasive medical

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procedures that don't have the

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over-the-top symbolic nature of some of

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the most malevolent types I already

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described this is more of a

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business-like mentality rather than one

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meant to be cruel by Design

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while these ones certainly aren't going

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out of their way to make the contact e

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abductee feel comfortable neither are

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they attempting to terrorize or

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commoditize them like what happens with

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the more negative groups

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in this sense this particular gradation

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of contact group is not so much evil as

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they are immature

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these ones who have more of a

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business-like demeanor are nowhere near

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a non-dual realization which is where

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the purely benevolent ones are coming

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from and like many earthlings here on

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Earth presently they see reality as a

563
00:22:34,730 --> 00:22:32,760
zero-sum game for them to get ahead some

564
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:34,740
of us have to endure some discomfort

565
00:22:39,649 --> 00:22:37,200
they are okay with this because they

566
00:22:42,289 --> 00:22:39,659
believe their Superior status justifies

567
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:42,299
these actions much like we do when we

568
00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:44,640
dominate the animal kingdom present on

569
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:46,500
our own planet

570
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:49,200
now this group for whose aim ultimately

571
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,080
is about Conquest they actually are

572
00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:54,480
comprised of different types and even

573
00:22:58,909 --> 00:22:56,760
different subgroups that have banded

574
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:58,919
together in a kind of Consortium that

575
00:23:03,289 --> 00:23:01,440
has its own hierarchy and speaking of

576
00:23:05,870 --> 00:23:03,299
this Consortium I've come across

577
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:05,880
evidence suggesting that a certain Rogue

578
00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:07,679
group of humanity that view themselves

579
00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:10,860
as Elite have technology provided by

580
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,140
this Consortium that allows this human

581
00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:16,080
group to actually be in contact with

582
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:18,360
these others in the part of the Galaxy

583
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:20,640
they are coming from and here we could

584
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,280
name specific constellations that

585
00:23:27,169 --> 00:23:24,960
various satellites for instance are

586
00:23:30,049 --> 00:23:27,179
pointed towards apparently for the sake

587
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:30,059
of ongoing contact with this Consortium

588
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:31,919
of others

589
00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:34,799
now the gradations of groups who feel

590
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:37,260
the means justify the ends who see

591
00:23:42,649 --> 00:23:40,080
existence as a zero-sum game as I just

592
00:23:45,649 --> 00:23:42,659
said are also the ones who are entering

593
00:23:48,049 --> 00:23:45,659
into Accords with various Earth human

594
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,059
power broker groups in order to further

595
00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:50,640
their agenda the humans who agreed to

596
00:23:54,770 --> 00:23:52,440
these Accords like the ones they're

597
00:23:57,169 --> 00:23:54,780
making the agreements with are still

598
00:23:59,450 --> 00:23:57,179
thirsty for power and Define their own

599
00:24:01,549 --> 00:23:59,460
self-worth by their ability to dominate

600
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:01,559
others of their kind

601
00:24:06,289 --> 00:24:04,320
this human group see themselves as Elite

602
00:24:08,450 --> 00:24:06,299
in regards to the rest of the human race

603
00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:08,460
and have made agreements with this

604
00:24:13,730 --> 00:24:11,220
Consortium of others obviously without

605
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,740
consulting the rest of us and in so

606
00:24:18,169 --> 00:24:15,840
doing are actually doing a disservice to

607
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,179
the population as a whole

608
00:24:22,669 --> 00:24:20,400
they of course find ways in their

609
00:24:25,310 --> 00:24:22,679
immature stage of Consciousness to see

610
00:24:26,810 --> 00:24:25,320
what they're doing as Justified there

611
00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:26,820
have been cases where for instance

612
00:24:32,029 --> 00:24:29,220
abducted human beings have confronted

613
00:24:34,610 --> 00:24:32,039
these human military types sometimes on

614
00:24:36,490 --> 00:24:34,620
board alien spacecraft and they are

615
00:24:39,529 --> 00:24:36,500
surprised to find these Earth humans

616
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,539
justifying their actions as allowing for

617
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,520
instance a certain nation-state to

618
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:43,679
remain in power over the rest of the

619
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:45,600
planet in other words this becomes their

620
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,700
justification and because they feel that

621
00:24:52,430 --> 00:24:49,679
their nation-state is superior to the

622
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:52,440
rest this is therefore a Justified means

623
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,760
to an end

624
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:56,159
this is always the case with the ego

625
00:25:00,529 --> 00:24:58,559
chasing element of humanity whose only

626
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,539
way of gauging success comes in being

627
00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:02,640
able to see themselves as above everyone

628
00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:05,340
else in their own minds they think they

629
00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:07,380
are serving the greater good by

630
00:25:12,049 --> 00:25:10,200
establishing order of course this is a

631
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:12,059
kind of order that they alone have

632
00:25:16,730 --> 00:25:14,880
defined and viewed as valuable

633
00:25:19,450 --> 00:25:16,740
this is very close to the kind of

634
00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:19,460
thinking justification rationale

635
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:21,780
ascribed to leaders of the so-called

636
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,960
Empire in the Star Wars franchise in

637
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:26,640
other words they don't see themselves as

638
00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:29,760
evil or domineering per se they convince

639
00:25:33,649 --> 00:25:31,380
themselves they are creating a more

640
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:33,659
ordered totality

641
00:25:37,549 --> 00:25:35,760
not surprisingly the Consortium of

642
00:25:40,130 --> 00:25:37,559
others I described have a similar

643
00:25:43,310 --> 00:25:40,140
mindset that's why reducing this to good

644
00:25:45,950 --> 00:25:43,320
versus evil is neither helpful nor very

645
00:25:49,490 --> 00:25:45,960
descriptive of the underlying reality

646
00:25:52,370 --> 00:25:49,500
in reality Notions of right and wrong or

647
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,380
moral justifications in general change

648
00:25:56,890 --> 00:25:54,720
and evolve as beings progress through

649
00:25:59,870 --> 00:25:56,900
the spiral of Consciousness

650
00:26:02,330 --> 00:25:59,880
self-evident truths for instance are

651
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:02,340
different depending on where you are on

652
00:26:07,789 --> 00:26:05,039
the Consciousness spiral

653
00:26:09,710 --> 00:26:07,799
now getting back to the non-human alien

654
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:09,720
groups again for a moment the most

655
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:12,240
advanced of these others of course are

656
00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:14,400
far beyond this level of thinking and

657
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:16,620
with a non-dual realization fully in

658
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:19,200
place they recognize that to harm or

659
00:26:24,890 --> 00:26:22,080
dominate another is to harm or dominate

660
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:24,900
oneself but again the less developed

661
00:26:30,350 --> 00:26:28,080
Ones Still operate under a mindset not

662
00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:30,360
so different from Earth human groups who

663
00:26:35,390 --> 00:26:33,539
seek to control and dominate others the

664
00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:35,400
ultimate aim of these less evolved

665
00:26:41,690 --> 00:26:37,620
non-human intelligences could be

666
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:41,700
described in one word Conquest

667
00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:44,400
now not surprisingly it is these ones

668
00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:46,440
who are conducting the majority of what

669
00:26:51,230 --> 00:26:49,020
have been deemed abductions though there

670
00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:51,240
is a rogue Earth group that is also

671
00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:52,740
doing this I'm talking about Earth

672
00:26:57,230 --> 00:26:55,140
humans

673
00:26:59,630 --> 00:26:57,240
okay and now moving on to the fourth

674
00:27:02,090 --> 00:26:59,640
group this is the group that when

675
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:02,100
ontological shock happens it is a

676
00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:04,500
byproduct and it is unintended and

677
00:27:10,370 --> 00:27:06,900
undesired by the others who actually

678
00:27:12,649 --> 00:27:10,380
contacting a human or a group of humans

679
00:27:15,169 --> 00:27:12,659
now as in the case I described a few

680
00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:15,179
episodes ago where beings interacted

681
00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:17,340
with a teenage couple and their young

682
00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:20,100
child the beings were ultimately seen as

683
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,980
very positive given the opportunity for

684
00:27:26,690 --> 00:27:24,240
reflection

685
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:26,700
one of the contactees a teenage father

686
00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:29,039
named Joe said of these particular

687
00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:32,580
others quote they don't seem to have bad

688
00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:35,220
qualities and when the hypnotic

689
00:27:39,769 --> 00:27:37,320
regressionist asked what makes you feel

690
00:27:42,590 --> 00:27:39,779
they have no bad qualities Joe how can

691
00:27:45,049 --> 00:27:42,600
you tell he responded quote they just

692
00:27:47,690 --> 00:27:45,059
seemed so peaceful I can feel it I can

693
00:27:50,029 --> 00:27:47,700
feel what they're like unquote

694
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,039
but again initially they were both

695
00:27:54,769 --> 00:27:52,320
shocked and dismayed by the encounter

696
00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:54,779
because it included elements such as the

697
00:27:59,149 --> 00:27:56,700
loss of the sense of a clear separation

698
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:59,159
of self common in these encounters with

699
00:28:03,409 --> 00:28:01,200
beings operating from a non-dual sense

700
00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:03,419
of reality and because it involved the

701
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:05,640
ontological shock of encountering beings

702
00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:09,600
that looked so unlike a human being

703
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:11,640
now considering we've talked about

704
00:28:16,370 --> 00:28:14,159
different kinds of groups some groups

705
00:28:18,529 --> 00:28:16,380
that are very benevolent very evolved

706
00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:18,539
basically coming from a non-dual

707
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:21,240
perspective on reality and the totality

708
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:23,760
of all sentient life and we've on the

709
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:25,440
other end of the spectrum covered beings

710
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:27,120
who seem to want to dominate us

711
00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:30,000
regardless of what it does to us that

712
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:31,740
perhaps begs the question for some of

713
00:28:36,649 --> 00:28:33,840
you why aren't these more benevolent

714
00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:36,659
ones these more evolved ones intervening

715
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:38,940
to stop the abductions to stop the

716
00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:41,760
interference these others are running on

717
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:43,380
our planet

718
00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:46,020
now this like much of this of course is

719
00:28:51,710 --> 00:28:48,840
complex it's nuanced but I would say

720
00:28:54,049 --> 00:28:51,720
this in general there is a partition in

721
00:28:56,029 --> 00:28:54,059
place that's my understanding based on

722
00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:56,039
research and based on some of the

723
00:29:00,289 --> 00:28:58,200
experiences I've had as well I believe

724
00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:00,299
there is a partition in place that

725
00:29:04,730 --> 00:29:02,880
prevents the majority of the negative

726
00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:04,740
groups from interacting with us and

727
00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:06,840
completely taking over the planet which

728
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,820
they would probably do if they had their

729
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:10,320
druthers

730
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,000
that said the partition is not 100

731
00:29:19,789 --> 00:29:17,039
reliable there are sometimes ways that

732
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:19,799
these others can get in outside of the

733
00:29:25,549 --> 00:29:22,799
design of the partition and in addition

734
00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:25,559
and this is very very important because

735
00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:28,620
even the most evolved ones highly value

736
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,279
freedom of will if human beings are the

737
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:34,559
ones that initiate that reach out and

738
00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:37,200
initiate contact with a group of others

739
00:29:41,870 --> 00:29:40,140
that is not so benevolent that is often

740
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:41,880
allowed because that is considered part

741
00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:44,640
of the lesson we need to learn about who

742
00:29:50,090 --> 00:29:47,340
we're dealing with so if we initiate and

743
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,100
we make Accords with them then that is

744
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,039
allowed within this partition and within

745
00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:55,679
this overarching understanding of a law

746
00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:58,380
of non-interference and again you look

747
00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:00,360
to some of our leaders said in quotes

748
00:30:04,909 --> 00:30:03,240
there who have made these Accords these

749
00:30:07,310 --> 00:30:04,919
are the people that have put us in this

750
00:30:08,990 --> 00:30:07,320
situation where sometimes abductions

751
00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:09,000
have been known about by human

752
00:30:14,450 --> 00:30:11,340
governments and allow out in exchange

753
00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:14,460
for technology which a nation-state or a

754
00:30:18,409 --> 00:30:16,020
group of elite leaders which sometimes

755
00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:18,419
is beyond just nation states believe

756
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:20,580
will keep them in power which they

757
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,559
believe is ordered and for the best

758
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,200
interest of the totality of course they

759
00:30:30,409 --> 00:30:28,080
do this without asking any of us and of

760
00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:30,419
course that mentality is coming from a

761
00:30:34,490 --> 00:30:32,220
stage of Consciousness that leaves much

762
00:30:36,769 --> 00:30:34,500
to be desired

763
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:36,779
now earlier I mentioned how some of

764
00:30:40,909 --> 00:30:38,640
these encounters fit depictions of

765
00:30:42,529 --> 00:30:40,919
angelic encounters within various

766
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,539
religious traditions

767
00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:44,640
other encounters fit depictions of

768
00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:46,980
so-called demons from Christian theology

769
00:30:51,710 --> 00:30:49,860
or Jinn from Islamic tradition

770
00:30:53,930 --> 00:30:51,720
I don't think this is coincidental

771
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:53,940
because here too I believe our

772
00:30:58,850 --> 00:30:56,640
traditional categories of Distinction

773
00:31:02,330 --> 00:30:58,860
ET versus interdimensional angel or

774
00:31:04,909 --> 00:31:02,340
demon versus alien Etc collapse into a

775
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:04,919
more overarching category

776
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:07,679
these beings are all travelers across

777
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:10,020
different dimensions of reality as

778
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,620
ultimately we are as well vibrating at

779
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:15,360
different frequencies depending on the

780
00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:17,760
level of Ascension of the being slash

781
00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:18,840
group

782
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:21,240
there is a trickiness to sorting out the

783
00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:24,720
UFO phenomenon because spirituality or

784
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:27,480
metaphysical reality if you prefer is

785
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,240
involved but that doesn't mean one

786
00:31:35,330 --> 00:31:32,399
religion or another is validated after

787
00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:35,340
all it means that those religions to

788
00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:38,520
various degrees retain a memory of the

789
00:31:42,169 --> 00:31:40,140
underlying reality

790
00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:42,179
and while this is the case we should

791
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:44,520
remember as I often point out on this

792
00:31:50,090 --> 00:31:47,279
show there's a difference between raw

793
00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:50,100
experience and interpretation that is to

794
00:31:54,110 --> 00:31:51,360
say just because these different

795
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,120
religions retain a memory of these kinds

796
00:31:58,610 --> 00:31:55,919
of encounters with interdimensional

797
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,620
beings some benevolent some malevolent

798
00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:01,200
some in between we should remember that

799
00:32:06,110 --> 00:32:03,299
how they interpret that and how they

800
00:32:08,570 --> 00:32:06,120
build Dogma sets around that that's a

801
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:08,580
human Enterprise to a large degree but

802
00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:11,640
the raw experience is still retained in

803
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:14,940
the ancient scriptural traditions

804
00:32:18,649 --> 00:32:16,860
and now I'd like to leave you with a few

805
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:18,659
concluding thoughts

806
00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:20,760
I still contend that the most

807
00:32:25,370 --> 00:32:22,919
significant Revelation arising from the

808
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,380
UFO phenomenon is that the reality

809
00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:27,600
construct we've been accustomed to in

810
00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:30,659
Western Civilization is but a sliver of

811
00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:34,380
a much larger multi-dimensional tapestry

812
00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:36,840
now to address the question as to how

813
00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:38,760
the most developmentally evolved groups

814
00:32:43,789 --> 00:32:40,679
of others are responding to our present

815
00:32:45,889 --> 00:32:43,799
situation how this plays out is being

816
00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:45,899
considered based on how it impacts our

817
00:32:51,950 --> 00:32:49,140
overall spiritual slash energetic makeup

818
00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:51,960
and progression of which this particular

819
00:32:57,470 --> 00:32:55,260
iteration is but one aspect

820
00:33:00,049 --> 00:32:57,480
and speaking of this iteration we should

821
00:33:02,990 --> 00:33:00,059
remember that past present and future

822
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:03,000
are point of view approximations from

823
00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:06,120
within this iteration and they are not

824
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:07,980
actually descriptive of the underlying

825
00:33:12,350 --> 00:33:10,559
reality time and space are modes by

826
00:33:15,049 --> 00:33:12,360
which we think and not conditions in

827
00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:15,059
which we live as Einstein said

828
00:33:19,370 --> 00:33:17,460
think of time not in linear terms but

829
00:33:21,769 --> 00:33:19,380
more like a circle where energy

830
00:33:25,009 --> 00:33:21,779
impacting the whole can travel in both

831
00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:25,019
directions your present actions can and

832
00:33:31,690 --> 00:33:28,140
do impact not just your future but also

833
00:33:34,610 --> 00:33:31,700
your past and even now said in quotes

834
00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:34,620
your higher self is guiding you from the

835
00:33:39,409 --> 00:33:37,260
relative Viewpoint of your future to

836
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,419
make advantageous decisions in your

837
00:33:43,549 --> 00:33:41,519
ultimate best interest

838
00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:43,559
it's very important to remember that in

839
00:33:48,529 --> 00:33:45,480
the most ultimate sense this is about

840
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:48,539
the creation as figments of the Creator

841
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:51,840
the overarching cosmic intelligence at

842
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play you cannot ultimately get it wrong

843
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therefore some just take longer than

844
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others

845
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now there are real consequences to your

846
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decisions so make decisions based on the

847
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best interest of your most complete self

848
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not getting lost in the whirlpool of the

849
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temporariness of this present

850
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incarnation

851
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but remember that even when you end up

852
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,919
off track as it were that there will

853
00:34:21,050 --> 00:34:18,720
always be opportunities to right the

854
00:34:24,530 --> 00:34:21,060
ship even if that's in another lifetime

855
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and not necessarily in human form

856
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and to this point while those of us

857
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tuned into a podcast like this one are

858
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here largely because we're all

859
00:34:36,050 --> 00:34:34,320
fascinated by the grand mystery that is

860
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:36,060
the UFO phenomenon and general

861
00:34:41,149 --> 00:34:38,760
paranormality I think it's important to

862
00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:41,159
remember that while these matters are

863
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:43,560
addictively captivating and pursuing

864
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:45,300
them does indeed help us to understand

865
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more of reality the most important

866
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takeaway from the cosmology I'm

867
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,040
describing here one that collapses so

868
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many traditional categories including

869
00:35:00,890 --> 00:34:57,720
Alien vs Angel and the physical versus

870
00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:00,900
the spiritual or metaphysical is that us

871
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:02,820
taking responsibility for our

872
00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:05,160
development as beings who are ultimately

873
00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:08,460
facets of the one underlying Cosmic

874
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:11,579
intelligence is of the utmost importance

875
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:14,460
and to get caught up in the spectacle of

876
00:35:19,730 --> 00:35:17,160
the phenomenon without recognizing that

877
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:19,740
underlying Revelation would be to miss

878
00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:23,520
the true point of the exercise

879
00:35:28,190 --> 00:35:26,040
and on that note we've come to the close

880
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of another edition of the point of

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00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:30,599
convergence podcast if you'd like to

882
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,820
support this podcast you can do so by

883
00:35:37,310 --> 00:35:34,640
going to patreon.com

884
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XO academian

885
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:39,480
but until next time friends from deep

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00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:41,520
within the Blue Ridge Mountains of North